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or if you will but the other was the last show\h
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balloon the one that got shot down over South\h
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before we shot another one down in Alaska and\h
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Canada and the next day we shot one down over Lake\h
Huron so basically we thought this seems to be a\h\h

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fluid situation and maybe it would be good for\h
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so right now um I'm hearing something else this\h
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I'm going to stop it I'm getting rid of it okay\h
let me bring in Ross Colt art out of Sydney Ross\h\h

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I hope you are suffering fewer technical issues\h
than I am right now how you doing mate I'm good\h\h

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I'm very good and boy what a couple of weeks\h
brush this has been absolutely extraordinary\h\h

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okay so let's let's quickly explain what's going\h
on yes we know that on the 4th of February a\h\h

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Chinese spy balloon was done at sixty thousand\h
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near Dead Horse Alaska on the 10th of February\h
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object was down in the Yukon on in Alaska on the\h
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of a metal payload seen hanging from that object\h
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shaped object was downed over Lake Huron in the\h
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of February at 20 000 feet this is the first time\h
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has ever brought down an object over U.S airspace\h
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it's also the first time frankly price that I've\h
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word alien responding to an absolute Avalanche\h
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have to say the general theme of my comments\h
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the White House's response to this whole issue uh\h
illogical nonsensical and catastrophic in terms\h\h

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of media messaging there is something seriously\h
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disagree with you at all and actually when I\h
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word alien and extraterrestrial I thought you know\h
how did I get onto HBO it looks like I'm watching\h\h

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Independence Day or something uh it was shocking\h
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that I want to just point out where we stand\h
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some respects has just moved on I was looking at\h
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their home page and not one of them not one of\h
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with uh the shoot Downs the other thing I'll just\h
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are trying to take this off the agenda but boy I\h
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the comments that we're already getting on site\h
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journalism have had a response such as what we're\h
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week I've been waking up to hundreds of new emails\h
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it is absolutely extraordinary because the public\h
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good reason it's really important that that we\h
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something that doesn't make sense about all of\h
this I'll let you finish the point you were about\h\h

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to make I was just going to say so then I started\h
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we can come back to our media hits and errors\h
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that as the government more and more said well\h
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might be something else but you know nothing to\h
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everybody who was interested in UAP accuracy or\h
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God they're not ETS but I don't think I knew very\h
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we were shooting down were ETS I think the bigger\h
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if you look at the number of UAP that have been\h
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as we put out these reports uh those UAP were not\h
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that were flying at much higher speeds and at\h
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military Maneuvers so we're not we're these are\h
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back into these these Chinese balloons and and or\h
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okay let's get one thing off the top first there\h
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the PIN ended on to try to conflate what these\h
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shot down with the broader issue of unidentified\h
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military Pilots civilian pilots and other\h
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decades it's a deliberate conflation and I think\h
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trying to muddy the waters to leave the general\h
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impression that yes in the long run the general\h
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be that these are foreign incursions probably by\h
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stray with a balloon but don't you worry your\h
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control now the big thing from this whole week is\h
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of the narrative and neither is the Pentagon the\h
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explanation I've just been watching a video\h
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to be near one of the Alaska sightings areas he\h
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the object must have been downed and what you see\h
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he says there's been no aerial activity over that\h
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search they're not doing it over the area where\h
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down I think there does need to be a very rigorous\h
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the other thing that's happened Bryce is that\h
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been overlooked by a lot of people that the Biden\h
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announced from the White House the creation of\h
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Pentagon the Federal Aviation Administration the\h
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of the executive branch and it's to be headed\h
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now this is significant this matters and it\h
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understand I am told and I can't go into a lot\h
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difference between the White House and sections\h
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the U.S Air Force and NORAD over what the position\h
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of the congressmen and Senators have been saying\h
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organization headed by Sean Kirkpatrick or\h
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this issue but people are missing the point the\h
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why for example did the National Security\h
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week directly contradict the Pentagon and NORAD\h
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said we know what these things are major Olivier\h
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know what these things are and then he clamped up\h
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but it's quite clear from the background briefings\h
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such as the New York Times And The Wall Street\h
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this issue to go away they've definitively said\h
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is now being briefed that most and in fact in a\h
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around America were told that the vast majority of\h
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detected in our air space going back years will\h
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ones that have been shot down over the U.S this is\h
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the White House is buying this narrative Joe Biden\h
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before to tell the truth about what the government\h
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more importantly about what the Pentagon and the\h
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briefed about these unidentified aerial phenomena\h
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briefing yesterday has been seen for decades\h
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Kennedy from I think he's uh come out of one\h
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Louisiana right yeah he came he said the cow is\h
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of people think cow is out of the barn means that\h
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of I had to do a bit of Googling to figure out\h
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I presume he means that the story is out and can't\h
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the kangaroo is out on the road uh who knows uh\h
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and you're a great reporter to be thinking of\h
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people who are in those White House briefings\h
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ask some of them out loud I also look forward to\h
the time when uh we can get our need to know chops\h\h

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into those media meetings and start asking them\h
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it is interesting I'm hearing the same thing that\h
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unawares by this is really kind of a bizarre uh\h
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80 years of this stuff so there was ample time\h
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has been happening in in such a time frame that\h
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about UAP as we have documented in 2028 previous\h
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necessarily uh caught you know out of out of that\h
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of lost control of the narrative but partly\h
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sent uh they sent press secretaries out and some\h
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from the president and I think it will probably\h
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not to have gotten out in front of it I understand\h
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little unclear about what date that would be but\h
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to myself the 20th come on how about three days\h
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in favor of Biden being as honest as he possibly\h
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of the saucer's publication on medium last year\h
one of them was a speech that I had written for\h\h

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Biden that he should give when the first report\h
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um because it it talked about UAP and and and the\h
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I mean I think he's got the perfect opportunity\h
I don't think he'll he'll do that now uh final\h\h

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uh conclusion about that um a lot of people are\h
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to say well if they're going to dismiss the whole\h
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or uh other surveillance equipment then I guess\h
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any further but I think what's interesting is\h
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is the majority leader of the Senate saying\h
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of bipartisan commission you were just talking\h
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you can't contain the truth once you start\h
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hearings of any kind uh the first thing you're\h
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China angle what's the Russia angle what who's\h
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more you're going to find exotic technology\h
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people have been wondering about for years how\h
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now I think we need to just go\h
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listen to what has been said officially by the\h
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the thing that sticks out to me is that very\h
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these thrill three still unidentified objects it\h
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General Glenn van hurk who said I am not able to\h
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be a gaseous type of balloon inside a structure\h
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and then he was asked by a journalist whether he'd\h
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that it can't possibly be extraterrestrials\h
whether he'd ruled out the UFOs were operated\h\h

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by extraterrestrials and Van hurk quite correctly\h
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point now what's interesting is at this point\h
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aliens it wasn't extraterrestrials and nobody\h
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extraterrestrials but what's fascinating is that\h
somebody was pumping The Narrative Bryce I've\h\h

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spoken to two journalists on major newspaper or\h
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tell me that the briefings to Media suggesting\h
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objects came from senior defense sources they\h
won't tell me who those sources are but there\h\h

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were defense sources suggesting that there\h
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and if you remember there was an article that\h
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suggesting that one of these objects had meddled\h
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jet aircraft and I've noticed that Chris Mellon\h
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ago he's actually picked up on this issue and he\h
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is concerning that the object that reportedly\h
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highly unusual and may prove to be a Chinese\h
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and then he goes on to say well perhaps albeit\h
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almost although most UAP likely have conventional\h
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seem inexplicable without reference to\h
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now again we're not suggesting that these balloons\h
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officials are alien but they certainly displayed\h
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White House are walking back at a hundred miles\h
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briefing the media and I think we have to ask we\h
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media so regularly does we shouldn't let go of\h
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UFO Fringe sections of the UFO social media that\h
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officials that were suggesting that these objects\h
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to remotely interfere with the weapons sensor\h
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must be motive or motivation for that what's your\h
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about all of this is I'm learning I'm worried that\h
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almost like they've basically gone it's all about\h
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um General Glenn van hurk basically saying look\h
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briefings suggesting that it might be in some\h
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that's able to do things to Modern fighter jets\h
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officials and then all of a sudden once they've\h
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I I don't think what I'm very very sure of Bryce\h
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few things that we need to drill in on because\h
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avoid the Clutter and you stick to what you know\h
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is Fleur forward looking infrared vision there is\h
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aircraft that Vision needs to be released now we\h
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powerful than you realize it's worth your while to\h
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video material did you see that buck pass when\h
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Press Conference or maybe it was General I can't\h
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that there is video but said you'll have to ask\h
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buck pass the White House needs to release this\h
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has as it has smugly been asserting to the\h
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directly that these are balloons don't you worry\h
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they need to release the evidence and the only\h
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have said and frankly what the pilots have said\h
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painting a picture of perhaps something\h
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larger structure with strings hanging down there's\h
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in the radio call and that it was shiny enough\h
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does it sound like a container not really what's\h
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of it right not I I all of these inconsistencies\h
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want to know if they really can't be bothered just\h
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and meekly accept the fact that the mainstream\h
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this but you guys who are listening you you've got\h
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concerned that this is a national security threat\h
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said these objects have been flying over us for\h
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for years we're not sure what we've known about\h
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the Chinese spy balloon we don't know what they\h
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he walked out of the briefing to Senators on\h
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why is it that you've got pompous unnamed people\h
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in mainstream media saying yes we know what these\h
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we're on top of things guys and then you've got\h
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know what they are think guys ask questions yes\h
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so um I know better than to trust the Pentagon\h
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just a couple of quick things for people who are\h
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meant instead of a a structure inside a balloon\h
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of people know that's what you mean so by Vision\h
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intercepts to go look and see what was there\h
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tape and those can be allowed to be seen what's\h
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whole thing remember those uh first three videos\h
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just little clips and we still never have seen the\h
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get a chance to look at what everyone's talking\h
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and it would be nice to to do that when we talk\h
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that is reminiscent of the Tic Tac where they had\h
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were things trailing off it so you know I don't\h
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what those are but um I think the thing that has\h
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story because like a lot of you I've sort of let\h
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between Fox and MSNBC and CNN and all these other\h
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and you know I got to tell you it hasn't been the\h
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been been good but I think the big mistake here\h
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are not exotic or uh otherwise anomalous then\h
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it's just looking into what China's doing and\h
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the literal hundreds and thousands of things\h
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encountered through our own pilots and through\h
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to trash the media every episode but I do think\h
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for the media have some kind of memory I mean I\h
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there were so many things where I had to tear my\h
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of them was I read an article by Jackie Waddles\h
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people have questioned whether extraterrestrial\h
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so the whole point is to to say it\h
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there's no other issue if she knew anything\h
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is a very facetious way to begin Aaron Burnett\h
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casually in one of uh her interviews Congress\h
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just tossed that off well as most of the people\h
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were last year in May uh that's like 10 months\h
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about this topic she'd know when that happened\h
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context that it's not just about that so I'd ask\h
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that hearing uh do you know who testified do you\h
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doesn't then I read another article and I didn't\h
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I had because it really infuriated me the first\h
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thoughts okay I'm sorry we could have retired that\h
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around in tin foil hats and the people that Ross\h
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large very very intelligent well-informed people\h
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right now so I I don't think that's reasonable\h
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uh Corinne pertil of the LA Times made the false\h
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technology automatically means alien so I will\h
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time nobody is saying that we're not saying\h
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Chinese balloons and weather balloons does\h
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um okay that's my soapbox uh for the media Hall\h
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any differently than our U.S media it's funny\h
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of an impatience in the Australian media with\h
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its head in the sand because whilst in America\h
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reality that there is a genuine mystery involving\h
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they really truly just try and ignore it and I've\h
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here in Australia and I said look I I know for a\h
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who tell me that they're seeing these objects\h
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Force and the Defense Force of this country\h
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they're actually coming to me they're talking to\h
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have reported them onto American organizations\h
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go and the messaging is don't talk to us about\h
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the the thing that I want to emphasize I'm going\h
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know there is Major dissent I'm going to say it\h
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White House and the Pentagon right now about the\h
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tell the truth and I just want to point you all\h
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recent statement released 24 hours ago Chris\h
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the 2004 Nimitz incident U.S Air Force f-22s were\h
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Navy aviators who were seeing and Reporting these\h
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these U.S Air Force pilots did not report the\h
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completely devoid of information from the U.S Air\h
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more aircraft and sensor systems than the Navy as\h
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it is my understanding that Norad did not\h
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of uncorrelated targets that its Radars identify\h
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make the point that yeah sure a lot of those are\h
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under Secretary of Defense Chris Millen saying\h
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uncooperative and he actually goes on to say there\h
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report including it now seems cases where U.S\h
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to intercept UAP this is an allegation from\h
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saying the U.S Air Force is being uncooperative\h
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talking about there which is a broad range of\h
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the clear messaging that is coming through\h
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largely the U.S Air Force yes nor rad you had\h
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saying declaring on Sunday very shortly after\h
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the arrogance of NORAD the arrogance of the U.S\h
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they're not allowed to know why the U.S Air Force\h
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have sensor systems that they don't want to reveal\h
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because they don't want to reveal capabilities\h
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me as interesting here is there is a regular\h
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including from good people like Chris mellum\h
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the Public's right to know he's calling out\h
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chief of air stuff for the Royal Australian\h
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um I think might be coming into question in\h
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nothing less but what I thought was particularly\h
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yourself who actually understands something about\h
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these panels they knew something about China\h
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we're really uh happy to have him talking uh to\h
us uh you know he and Lieutenant Ryan Graves who\h\h

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was one of the pilots you know they have made it\h
clear that Pilots are sometimes encountering these\h\h

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things every single day um in fact on one Navy\h
ship I believe leave the aviator's ready room\h\h

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literally had some kind of sign that said there\h
was a potential for mid-air collisions and the\h\h

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government's own reports have shown about 11\h
cases of potential mid-air collisions so yeah\h\h

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they need to get experts on who can probably talk\h
about some of that the other thing is though you\h\h

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make a great point the army versus the excuse me\h
the Air Force versus the Navy is not a football\h\h

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game in the United States or Australia but it is\h
something that seems to be going on historically\h\h

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and has picked up in Steam uh obviously at the\h
beginning of the UFO issue when it began in the\h\h

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40s 50s and 60s it all fell to the Air Force I\h
think the thinking was well if they're up there\h\h

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then the Air Force should take a look at it and\h
the Air Force had very mixed results on that they\h\h

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they were not given a lot of credit for really\h
digging into it and they were given some of the\h\h

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blame for diverting some of the better cases not\h
to a Project Blue Book but somewhere else up the\h\h

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chain of command so the truth of the matter is we\h
even covered it we did an entire show a few people\h\h

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want to go to the YouTube page you'll see that\h
show where we talked about uh the Air Force versus\h\h

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the Navy and why historically they may be behaving\h
that way but clearly now is the time for the Air\h\h

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Force to get with the program because Congress\h
is pissed off and or at least some influential\h\h

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people in Congress are and they want answers\h
and they want this uh detail before them so\h\h

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um they're going to get them I think one way or\h
the other uh whether those answers will be gotten\h\h

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in classified meetings or in an unclassified\h
public Arena to be worked out but I guess Ross\h\h

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as I sat there and and again let this wash over\h
me it was so strange as a news story I say this\h\h

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as an observer of the news and also someone who\h
spent a lot of his career covering news it was so\h\h

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bizarre we did an episode where we thought we were\h
as current as we could be with the Chinese balloon\h\h

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and then boom boom boom one per day for three\h
days we shoot down another UAP now whether they're\h\h

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Chinese Russian or a player to be named later or\h
exotic and anomalous that's still being sorted out\h\h

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but my question uh that I think we might want to\h
ask because I see people who are making comments\h\h

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on on this show uh seem to have this on their\h
mind why why if you go 80 some years and don't\h\h

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actually talk about shooting anything down why\h
now why do you think it was now why did they do it\h\h

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that's a very good question can\h
I just quickly emphasize a point\h\h

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you've talked about the clash between the Navy the\h
U.S Navy and the U.S Air Force I've made the point\h\h

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that the US Air Force is Accused flatly by a form\h
of very senior defense official in an article 24\h\h

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hours ago of essentially obstructing the Public's\h
right to know of hindering UFO UAP transparency\h\h

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I'll go further is the White\h
House interagency panel a response\h\h

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to something that the U.S Navy at a very high\h
level has come to the White House about is the\h\h

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dissent between the U.S Air Force and the U.S Navy\h
at a very high command level such that possibly\h\h

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a senior commander of the U.S Navy has gone to\h
the Biden White House and told them something\h\h

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you have to ouch that in a very specific and\h
credible way as a question are you hearing are you\h\h

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telling you you are what would you do if you were\h
the White House and you learned that the Pentagon\h\h

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is being obstructive not just on this whole\h
balloon Saga which I think is a big red herring\h\h

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but on the broader issue of proper investigation\h
into an unidentified aerial phenomenon if you were\h\h

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to learn as now is official This Is the Scandal\h
behind all of this if you're Jake Sullivan the\h\h

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um the National Security advisor in the White\h
House and you learn that the U.S Air Force has\h\h

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not been telling the president about these objects\h
over U.S airspace so supposedly because and I say\h\h

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supposedly because I'm not sure I quite believe\h
it they turned down the sensitivity of their\h\h

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radar systems so much that they weren't seeing\h
these objects you would be furious that your Air\h\h

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Force which is tasked with the protection of the\h
airspace of North America would would be doing\h\h

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such a thing to effectively make America blind\h
to threats and and I read somewhere earlier in\h\h

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the week that somebody said this is a 9 11 moment\h
it is if you go back to the 911 Commission what\h\h

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did it reveal it revealed that there were sections\h
of the U.S intelligence and defense Community who\h\h

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were compartmentalizing information that needed\h
to be shared in order to protect Americans from\h\h

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a national security threat of global islamist\h
terrorism in this case what is it some 22 years\h\h

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later we have a situation where it turns out\h
the Air Force has probably known for years\h\h

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about these incursions across American airspace\h
but it hasn't been telling its president and if\h\h

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you were the president you would be pissed yeah\h
just imagine what if the U.S Navy has also become\h\h

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aware of something about the U.S Air Force and\h
what if the U.S Navy was to go to the Biden White\h\h

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House and say we don't believe the U.S Air Force\h
has been properly candid with you Mr President\h\h

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that is where I think we're at at the moment I\h
don't care if you're from Australia or the United\h\h

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States that is still what is called The Game\h
Changer if that happens that is a shocking thing\h\h

387
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and by way by the way it was our friend Chris\h
Mellon who mentioned that uh what you were talking\h\h

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about about 9 11. in that article he posted up\h
a day ago he thought that the this the obvious\h\h

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lack of getting this right in the last week uh\h
we'll probably go down in history like 9 11 as\h\h

390
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you mentioned but also Pearl Harbor in other words\h
there's a security threat some of us know about it\h\h

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but we don't respond to it uh that is literally\h
uh not doing your job now one of the things that\h\h

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I thought uh as I was listening to you talk is\h
that yeah well it's not impossible what you're\h\h

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suggesting and that that you're hearing because\h
uh remember the ndaa which is the National Defense\h\h

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authorization act which uh you know people on the\h
show understand was passed last year by the house\h\h

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and the Senate and signed by Biden on December\h
23rd a couple of days before Christmas that makes\h\h

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it so much easier to start getting the truth out\h
give you a quick highlight of some of the things\h\h

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that NDA does and you'll ndaa does and you'll\h
understand among the things it does it provides\h\h

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greatly enhanced authorities and resources for\h
this program they've set up arrow with which is\h\h

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the all domain anomaly office anomaly resolution\h
office the second thing it does it mandates\h\h

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a review of all intelligence documents involving\h
UAP from 1945 to the present uh the third thing it\h\h

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does is it asks to be uh looked into to identify\h
any non-disclosure agreements related to UAP and\h\h

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then the Whopper is it directs uh well no then\h
it also directs the new Arrow office to develop\h\h

403
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a science plan the Whopper though for what you're\h
saying is it provides a secure process for anyone\h\h

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who has signed an official U.S government secrecy\h
agreement related to UAP to come forward and\h\h

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reveal that information to arrow and to Congress\h
regardless of the level of classification and\h\h

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without fear of Retribution and prosecution so\h
yeah if people are up in arms about what they've\h\h

407
00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:37,020
been seeing in the last week how it's been handled\h
and want to know what the truth is there's a whole\h\h

408
00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:43,320
Army of whistleblowers that are being talked to\h
right right now in our in our country so I think\h\h

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it is possible um it's more than possible it's\h
it's probable that something like what you just\h\h

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described is happening whether they've got in to\h
talk to the White House I doubt they got into the\h\h

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president but he certainly must know about it no\h
yeah so I mean I just re-emphasize to our audience\h\h

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I think the key takeaway for me on this is the\h
U.S Air Force has been caught tricking down the\h\h

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radar sensitivity in a way that Chris Mellon and\h
others were warning about I mean Louis zondo went\h\h

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public about this and resigned from his role\h
in The Pentagon because he said that certain\h\h

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individuals in the Pentagon remain staunchly\h
opposed to further research on what he said\h\h

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00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:30,060
years ago could be a tactical threat to our Pilots\h
Sailors soldiers and perhaps even an existential\h\h

417
00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:36,000
threat to our national security that was a warning\h
that Louis zondo wrote when he left the Pentagon\h\h

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in November of 2017. and here we are what is it\h
six years later six years later and it's come\h\h

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true Chris Mellon saying the same thing these\h
guys it's five and change let's not be too hard\h\h

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on them okay cool five and change yeah but yeah I\h
mean the thing that fascinates me is I think and\h\h

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I'm hearing this things are starting to crack\h
there has been a unanimity presented publicly\h\h

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from the Pentagon that both the U.S Air Force\h
and the U.S Navy are in lockstep on this issue\h\h

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but what if you are a senior U.S Navy\h
commander and you become aware of things that\h\h

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the U.S Air Force is concealing criminally\h
improperly illegally I'll say that again\h\h

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00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:35,400
what if you become aware as a senior commander in\h
the U.S Navy that crimes are being committed now I\h\h

426
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personally think that anybody that is responsible\h
for such crimes should be publicly excoriated\h\h

427
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named and shamed but maybe the political arm of\h
your government might take a more cautious view\h\h

428
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:54,780
maybe they might announce oh an inter-agency task\h
force to review what is known about this issue\h\h

429
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,800
a political body because they no longer trust the\h
Pentagon to do the research and the investigations\h\h

430
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that they think are necessary that is what I think\h
is significant out of Monday's announcement from\h\h

431
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the White House you're you're what if does have I\h
mean you answered your own what if but I'll take\h\h

432
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:21,300
a one step further if that is true as you said\h
what are your options well option one is heads are\h\h

433
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:28,140
going to roll and there may be prosecutions I mean\h
that's what happens if you do illegal acts and uh\h\h

434
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you are found to have done it you're supposed\h
to be prosecuted the only other option would be\h\h

435
00:45:32,340 --> 00:45:38,460
the president could step in and offer a pardon\h
to people uh perhaps in exchange for Testimony\h\h

436
00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:45,180
perhaps not those are really the the basic options\h
you know but as I was I just have to say that is\h\h

437
00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:52,440
a good solid piece of information you've heard um\h
it doesn't sound out of the realm of possibility\h\h

438
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:58,440
but I think there are so many moving parts right\h
now that this thing is so fluid that it could go\h\h

439
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:05,400
any direction now I get more or at least better\h
emails and phone calls since we've started doing\h\h

440
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:11,580
this show and I got the sense from a couple of\h
them that there's a sense also that the United\h\h

441
00:46:11,580 --> 00:46:16,740
States is almost in a truth race with a couple\h
of other countries that there are other countries\h\h

442
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that are supposedly thinking about being a little\h
more forthcoming than they have been I don't have\h\h

443
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:29,400
the names of them or uh you know right now but\h
I hear that that is being talked about by some\h\h

444
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of these same people so we are in a place where\h
it it's you you could not be blamed for thinking\h\h

445
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:42,480
it's a little confusing because on one land you\h
are being told hey looks like we have a problem\h\h

446
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with Chinese surveillance we better get that taken\h
care of so that's the one thing but the other is\h\h

447
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you say well wait a minute you can't use Chinese\h
balloons or intelligence and surveillance uh from\h\h

448
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any country to explain all of the UAP that we\h
have been getting since 1947 forward so we are\h\h

449
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in a period where uh I I wouldn't have predicted\h
this you know I wrote a book with Richard Dolan\h\h

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called A.D after disclosure where we tried to\h
come up with every scenario imaginable about\h\h

451
00:47:14,340 --> 00:47:20,880
how this whole uh what Steve Bassett calls is the\h
truth embargo could could break down and I got to\h\h

452
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tell you the idea that we would shoot down four uh\h
UAP in a single week that and that didn't actually\h\h

453
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make it into our book because it seemed kind\h
of improbable and yet here we are so uh I guess\h\h

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my takeaway from this week is there's way more\h
here than meets the eye right now uh I don't\h\h

455
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need them to be alien craft to think that we are\h
going to start getting uh some exciting times\h\h

456
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where people are looking for the truth in a more\h
aggressive way than they have in the past and I\h\h

457
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kind of look forward to it because uh this is an\h
issue that has long been kicked down the road by\h\h

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the Pentagon by the Congress by the People by the\h
media and this last week has proved one thing uh\h\h

459
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there is an interest in the topic but more than\h
that there is a demand for answers and I know\h\h

460
00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:19,140
you want them Ross and I want them too and I'm\h
assuming everybody who's listening to us wants\h\h

461
00:48:19,140 --> 00:48:27,900
them so now as they say let the games begin now\h
let's remind people before we go that there's a\h\h

462
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separate issue from these three balloons which\h
I I do emphasize will probably turn out to be\h\h

463
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benign it's quite clear that the US Air Force\h
knows quite a lot about them even though they\h\h

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haven't been able to recover them and I don't\h
think they're looking too hard for them I suspect\h\h

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that it's it's going to turn out that they're\h
quite benign I think what they're worried about\h\h

466
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is being embarrassed in that if they reveal\h
that the debris is just some weather balloon\h\h

467
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or something like that then they're going to\h
be accused by their opposition of of having\h\h

468
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overreacted and of having deployed missiles over\h
USS space in a way that was completely unwarranted\h\h

469
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and I think what they're all hoping is to be able\h
to dampen this issue down and let it all go away\h\h

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and they're playing the media at the moment giving\h
them the impression especially in the briefings to\h\h

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Governors that all of these uaps are going to be\h
explained away as such clutter now we know from\h\h

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the preliminary report to for to the dni from the\h
dni on the UAP issue that was tended in June of\h\h

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2021 to the Congress there were 143 military UAP\h
incidents since 2004 validated by multiple sources\h\h

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and more importantly in the more recent report\h
that's come down when the house intelligence\h\h

475
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committee held a public hearing on the UAP issue\h
last May the number of official UAP reports had\h\h

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climbed to 400 and then more recently the office\h
of the Director of National Intelligence submitted\h\h

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a new unclassified report that shows a hundred\h
and that it had classified 195 out of a 510 UAP\h\h

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incidents so the residual number of unexplained\h
uaps remains in excess of 300 and that doesn't\h\h

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include NORAD and frankly Ross you and I both\h
know and so is everyone listening that the\h\h

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actual reporting of UFOs slash UAP is is always\h
has always been far lower than than what people\h\h

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see in other words the average person if they\h
see a UFO often don't even tell their family\h\h

482
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they certainly don't tell their friends they don't\h
go to school or work and and tell everybody about\h\h

483
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it that may be changing a little bit but more than\h
that our military over the years has not been very\h\h

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good at encouraging people to come forward and\h
that is starting to to change a a little bit so\h\h

485
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um you know I just wanted to go back as we close\h
up here and remind people of what a a couple of\h\h

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points that Chris melon had made he concluded that\h
article by saying the good news is that awareness\h\h

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is rising regarding the UAP issue and we have\h
not yet suffered any acts of kinetic aggression\h\h

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or hostility from UAP the public should be more\h
relieved than alarmed as we are finally taking the\h\h

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steps to more effectively defend and control U.S\h
airspace if one or more of these UAP ultimate do\h\h

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prove to be alien the Revelation could actually\h
work to the advantage of our species I think\h\h

491
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that's probably true although we're about to test\h
it um I guess um if if we look forward I would put\h\h

492
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one little projection out there I guess if I had\h
to just uh project the future I would say we are\h\h

493
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,880
entering a period people where this is going\h
to sneak into the 2024 presidential election\h\h

494
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:58,800
I wouldn't have said that prior but now we've\h
got official reasons to be looking into UAP and\h\h

495
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,780
I don't think any responsible candidate could\h
avoid being asked about it anymore so I think\h\h

496
00:52:03,780 --> 00:52:08,340
things are going to change in the next couple of\h
years yep absolutely and I think as Senator Marco\h\h

497
00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:13,680
Rubio has said um he actually said at his dual\h
stop that they they have information that is not\h\h

498
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:20,280
currently publicly publicly available either to\h
congressmen senators or the general public and he\h\h

499
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:27,060
said he originally said 95 and then he corrected\h
it and said 99 of the information that he was told\h\h

500
00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:32,940
in his classified briefing yesterday in the in the\h
Congress could be made public without compromising\h\h

501
00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:40,020
the security of America now it's quite clear we\h
are at an absolute turning point because For the\h\h

502
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:48,600
First Time there is unanimity bipartisan unanimity\h
that uaps are a real life safety absolute flight\h\h

503
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:56,700
safety and national security threat and the the\h
Congress is not going to let this issue go as I\h\h

504
00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:01,920
I really can't predict what's going to happen\h
in coming months but it's a very exciting time\h\h

505
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:07,320
especially because of what I know is going on\h
behind the scenes because while all this has\h\h

506
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:12,900
been happening great work is being done by the\h
oversight Committees of Congress the um Services\h\h

507
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:21,900
committee the Senate intelligence committee key\h
people are coming forward to give evidence there\h\h

508
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:28,560
is a Schism now there is a Schism between the\h
U.S Air Force and the U.S Navy and guess what\h\h

509
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:38,040
the White House knows it as we wrap up let me\h
just ask you um because we've talked about well\h\h

510
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:45,120
I'll just ask you if you had to BET right now\h
what do you think the four objects represent\h\h

511
00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:51,360
I think the four objects well firstly the\h
balloon the Spy balloon was definitely a\h\h

512
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,820
Chinese the success of three objects that were\h
shut down that officially still unidentified I\h\h

513
00:53:56,820 --> 00:54:02,580
think they'll turn out to be either some aerospace\h
companies mislaid experiment or maybe a balloon\h\h

514
00:54:02,580 --> 00:54:07,320
sent across from Russia or China I really don't\h
think they're going to turn out to be anything at\h\h

515
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:14,520
all anomalous what is interesting though is that\h
as a result of the Biden government's overreaction\h\h

516
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,980
to the Chinese spyballoon incursion where the\h
president was getting an absolute bollocksing\h\h

517
00:54:19,980 --> 00:54:25,260
for not acting quickly enough on responding\h
to that balloon I think he gave a shoot down\h\h

518
00:54:25,260 --> 00:54:29,820
order he told the air force that he was sick\h
of their nonsense and he demanded that they\h\h

519
00:54:29,820 --> 00:54:35,220
start shooting down these objects which is why we\h
had this crazy situation where for the first time\h\h

520
00:54:35,220 --> 00:54:40,980
in history norad's shooting down objects over\h
American soil that's never happened before no\h\h

521
00:54:40,980 --> 00:54:49,380
now that's a big red herring though the big issue\h
is that the Congress the arrow the aaro the all\h\h

522
00:54:49,380 --> 00:54:56,100
domain all domain anomaly resolution office and\h
now the interagency the political panel appointed\h\h

523
00:54:56,100 --> 00:55:01,380
by the White House they are putting the Pentagon\h
and the intelligence Services Under scrutiny that\h\h

524
00:55:01,380 --> 00:55:07,980
they've never done before and I can tell you guys\h
for the people watching this at command level and\h\h

525
00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:12,540
they are there we know you're watching for the\h
people who are watching in the Pentagon and the\h\h

526
00:55:12,540 --> 00:55:18,840
intelligence Community if you think that we don't\h
know what's going on we do we know a lot more than\h\h

527
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:24,540
you realize and we're far more coordinated than\h
you realize and if you are toying with the idea\h\h

528
00:55:24,540 --> 00:55:29,820
of coming forward and giving evidence this\h
is your time you can either be an honorable\h\h

529
00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:37,140
servant of America or you can be responsible for\h
a criminal cover-up it's your call yeah it is\h\h

530
00:55:37,140 --> 00:55:41,040
um listen a couple of parting thoughts\h
then we really do have to get out of here\h\h

531
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:45,900
um here's the thing um we're working on a show\h
where we're going to review some of the history\h\h

532
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:51,540
because in the history all kinds of fun things\h
can be found historically there have been shoot\h\h

533
00:55:51,540 --> 00:55:58,500
down orders for what were UFOs back then in fact\h
in 1952 there were multiple shoot down orders and\h\h

534
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:05,100
attempts and there were lots of planes that were\h
lost in the uh in the 50s by both the U.S and by\h\h

535
00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:10,020
the Soviet Union so that historical show should be\h
an eye-opener but we're doing our research on that\h\h

536
00:56:10,020 --> 00:56:16,140
I just want to end with this Ross I think we are\h
going to look back on this week and I I agree with\h\h

537
00:56:16,140 --> 00:56:22,980
you they're probably not exotic or or uh anomalous\h
as there there's probably surveillance platforms\h\h

538
00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:28,920
but I think we are going to look back on this week\h
when we sort of woke up and got a little alarmed\h\h

539
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:34,800
and then a little pissed off and we're going to\h
look at this week as the gateway drug to the truth\h\h

540
00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:39,720
this is the thing that's going to get people\h
started and they're going to start looking\h\h

541
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:46,320
for China and Russia and maybe Iran and they're\h
going to look for other places but if you start\h\h

542
00:56:47,220 --> 00:56:52,920
pushing those rocks over you're going to push one\h
over and it's going to be one that is non-human\h\h

543
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:59,760
and that's my prediction we'll see if I'm\h
right because you all of you out there you\h\h

544
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:05,940
have the right to know as well as the need to\h
know catch you on the next show everybody more\h\h